TKC EXCLUSIVE!!! MANY COUNTRY CLUB MERCHANTS FEAR 'MLK PARKWAY' WOULD INVITE MORE PROTESTS TO THE PLAZA AFTER KANSAS CITY #BLACKLIVESMATTER RIOTS FINANCIALLY DEVASTATED BIZ!!!
As TKC reported FIRST and hinted at weeks ago, the effort to rename J.C. Nichols Fountain & Parkway in now a priority for the Kansas City Parks Board.
This is a bold move in response to recent civil unrest and most residents, rightly, believe that the effort has the best of intentions in order to inspire civic unity.
Sadly, an ancient proverb reminds us that the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
First, a financial perspective from TOP ECHELON KCMO INSIDERS regarding recent local civil unrest . . .
TKC EXCLUSIVE!!! THE NEGATIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF RECENT RIOTING ON THE COUNTRY CLUB PLAZA TOTALED NEARLY FIVE MILLION BUCKS!!!
This is a conservative estimate that recently circulated among Plaza owners which takes into account property damage, wages lost, and revenue decreases over the nearly two weeks the Country Club entertainment district was basically shut down.
Throughout the entire history of the entertainment district, only The Great Plaza Flood of 1977 created more damage than #BlackLivesMatter riots of 2020.
Accordingly . . .
Here's a quote from a Country Club Plaza Insider that shares perspective on the conflicted feelings of many locals regarding the move . . .
"First of all, I want KC to have a street named after MLK. That's a given and it's shameful that we haven't done it already. That being said, I've heard concerns from the African-American clergy they don't like this location . . . That's something to consider and I'm sure they'll address this soon. After such a devastating period of loss for the Plaza, so much property destroyed and continued hard feelings between many protesters and police . . . It seems like they're setting up The Plaza as a protest zone and that endangers our businesses, hotels and homes. Over the past few years we've seen more and more demonstrations make the Plaza their staging grounds and that's unfair to families who simply want to live, eat and conduct their business in peace. This isn't political at all. It was just as disconcerting when right wing protesters decided to ignore social distancing rules during the height of the pandemic and rally around the fountain. All I'm saying is that The Parks Board is turning The Plaza into 'protest central' and it will be impossible to do businesses in that environment . . ."
In fairness, Kansas City Mayor Quinton Lucas seems enthusiastic about the idea . . .
Mayor Lucas said in a statement that he supports the efforts of Parks Board Commish Chris Goode's and the time to remove memorials to J.C. Nichols has “long passed."
“No person accelerated white flight, redlining and racial division in the Kansas City area more than J.C. Nichols,” Mayor Lucas said.
And so, another period of MLK public discussion is underway as municipal leaders hope a political gesture might help end local hostilities following riotous destruction and social justice outcry as the deadly violence that defines Kansas City persists.
Further reading:
KSHB: The Kansas City, Missouri, Parks and Recreation Board is considering renaming the J.C. Nichols Fountain in Mill Creek Park and J.C. Nichols Parkway after Commissioner Chris Goode made the request Tuesday in a letter to the board.
Fox4: Many attribute some of the Kansas City metro’s harsh racial and financial divide to Nichols.
KCTV5: The board said they have initiated the process to consider the renaming. “Considering current events, the KC Parks Board feels it is imperative to move swiftly as well as thoughtfully to ensure this process is transparent and inclusive,” a release from the Kansas City, Missouri Parks and Recreation said.
You decide . . .
the tipster is right about the revs. They're already trying to shoot this idea down. They want Paseo or nothing.
ReplyDelete^^^ Well, they already lost.
DeleteThey no longer have any say in the matter.
That being said, the Parks Board needs to listen to EVERYONE. Not just the politicians.
They can name it Wakanda if that would make them happy.
DeleteThey've had 6 bushiness close this year since coronavirus and more on the way. Just like always, there's not much left to fight over and the mob is only going to get the crumbs.
Naming anything after MLK should be confined to the shithole ghetto.
ReplyDeleteWhat will renaming anything do for the individual or the community?
ReplyDeleteWill it improve lives or stop crime?
What is the endgame?
Sure, you just want to live in peace, while benefiting from a segregated stratified society where all profit goes to the overlords, and the bloated military and police enforcers suck up tax money to finance their militant riots against the people.
ReplyDeleteNO JUSTICE NO PEACE!
As you survey the damage on the plaza and in other cities around the country., you have to come to the realization that blacks are doing a damn fine job of segregating themselves.
DeleteIf you have a business in the Playza use this BS to break your lease and get out. KCMO is going to bow to the lowest cvommon denominator and sensible people know who that is.
ReplyDeleteA race to the bottom KCMO, go, go, go.
ReplyDeleteThe toy train extension killed the Plaza. The Plaza was against it but nothing stops the consultants and no reasoning was going slow the crazy justifications for doing the extension.
ReplyDeletePlayza Weave and Nails grand opening in August. The owners brow beat the owners in to years free rent cause they guilty feeling.
ReplyDeleteThis is not about improving lives. It is about planting flags as the black conquest of Kansas City proceeds under the racist mayor and city council. Don't expect lives to improve at all.
ReplyDeleteIt might surprise some that there are many poor whites who have to deal with corporate overlords. It's called "welcome to the real world." Get a job, work hard, love your family, live frugally, and don't break the law -- that's the simple solution for most people to live a decent life. If you can't do that, look in the mirror.
ReplyDelete6:30 AM. What kind of dialogue is that? Answer the simple question, please.
ReplyDeleteEliminate section 8 housing, it is making the whole city racist. To know some is to hate some. Filty, lazy and worthless race for the most part.
ReplyDeleteRegardless what you think about J C Nichols, his “restricted” areas (Plaza, Mission Hills, Prairie Village, Ward Pkwy) are still the most beautiful parts of the metro. Coincidence? Not so much.
ReplyDelete"First of all, I want KC to have a street named after MLK. That's a given and it's shameful that we haven't done it already.”
ReplyDeleteThat’s a racist comment. It’s not shameful that the black community voted this down three times already, they have chosen to not have a street named after mlk, we should honor their wishes and drop the whole damn thing, you white people think you know what’s best for African Americans, you don’t so leave us alone.
Working people have shouldered the burden for decades of generational welfare DEPENDENCY! Rev All said "get off our necks!". Well okay Rev Al if you get your hands out of our pockets!
ReplyDeleteI am guessing here but I believe naming things and places is either like piss marking or an attempted shortcut to self-esteem.
You cannot obtain self-esteem from confiscation of something you neither designed, paid for or earned.
MyBad
Renaming JC Nichols Parkway to MLK Boulevard is a great idea.
ReplyDeleteWhen is Leawood and Overland Park, Kansas going to come out of the Jim Crow era? Talk about white privilege.
These elite, rich white guys keep talking about white privilege well let's see them do real action and rename Metcalf Boulevard to Martin Luther King Boulevard.
Every street should be renamed after an African American to show their terrific contributions to American society.
Rolling Gun Battle Parkway
ReplyDelete7:34 AM Great comments. There is a very large amount of white people in the current movements. As well intentioned as they maybe, their over zealous actions is actually making your people look more radical by taking the lead at times. This interference is somewhat emasculating of your leadership.
ReplyDeleteIs this English?
DeleteOld white people...so lame and scared. Nobody wants your opinions on this. This is happening. Deal with it. See you at the renaming ceremony!
ReplyDeleteDrive By Shooting Fountain?
ReplyDeleteWe need a definition of "white flight" as it pertains the K.C. back then - there had to be reasons and remember, the white man was here first. No prejudice intended on my part.
ReplyDelete7:51 AM Just another form of theft. Stereotypes are affirmed.
ReplyDeleteIs it any surprise there is "white flight" after seeing these stats?
ReplyDeleteBlack males aged (15-35) make up 3% of the nation’s population and are responsible for:
53% of all mass shootings
52% of all homicides
42% of all murders of on duty police
30% of all rapes,
56% of all robberies
33% of all aggravated assaults
30% of all burglaries
38% of all 'Violent Crime'
33% of all crimes against 'families and children'
The cops should declaire a Blue Flu weekend. July 4th would be perfect. Nation wide no police for 48 hours. Then I bet even the most brain dead pinkos will cry Police, Police !!! please save my dumb ass.
ReplyDeleteKansas City and Plaza property values continue to sink with each passing day. Hardly anyone with money will want to drive to the Plaza to shop or dine.
ReplyDeleteMayor Quentin Lucas will forever be remembered for destroying Kansas City and alienating the races with his personal racism. That will be his legacy.
White envy is what it is all about.
ReplyDelete717 is right. It is simple to live decently in this country, work hard and just do not live a thug culture life and you will do well.
White people have not been given anything, remember this country was built by explorers, pilgrims, visionaries, mountain men, pioneers and settlers who were strong enough to live through plagues, famines, pestilence and wars.
Now people want everything given to them with welfare.
Ole Man Nichols discriminated against more white people than he ever did any black people. Think I'm kidding ask some of the old school local Jewish people for starters. How many know of the land Nichols donated so a country club for Jewish and Black people could be built.
ReplyDeleteI'm equally as tired of black people wanting to take away from white people their history and those who made history in Kansas City. We have a park named after King isn't that enough contribution for a man who never visited Kansas City Mo nor do the local black population even try to live by the words of Dr. King.
But Nichols is no way responsible for the current racial issues in Kansas City right now. Only ones guilty of that is the local black population itself and the local democrats.
Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book has been rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street and building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And that process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right. I know, of course, that the past is falsified, but it would never be possible for me to prove it, even when I did the falsification myself. After the thing is done, no evidence ever remains. The only evidence is inside my own mind, and I don’t know with any certainty that any other human being shares my memories.
ReplyDelete^^and yet CHUD, no one ever said he was. Do better. Weird.
ReplyDeleteTKC EXCLUSIVE!!! THE NEGATIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF RECENT RIOTING ON THE COUNTRY CLUB PLAZA TOTALED NEARLY FIVE MILLION BUCKS!!!
ReplyDeleteSince nobody totals these figures, thanks for the made-up statistics, Tony.
^^^go get a life preferably some place that has no internet
ReplyDeleteThe darkies will never be satisfied no matter what you give them, the animals will cry and bitch for more.
ReplyDeleteOf course, the violent protests on the Plaza were great advertising and the damage done made all the buildings and cars more attractive to shoppers. Brilliant thinking.
ReplyDeleteIt is too bad our mayor is such a cunt.
ReplyDeleteanybody know when and if brio will reopen?
ReplyDeleteother restaurants?
Under Trump, black employment reached record highs as wages went up. Trump did in three years what Obama couldn't do in eight.
ReplyDeleteAre all people names Nichols racist?
ReplyDeleteIt's ironic that the race baiting reverends want to name a street after MLK Jr. They long ago stopped believing that the content of one's character is more important than the color of one's skin.
ReplyDeletePlaza is dead. Blacks ruin everything. I decided. CHUD out.
ReplyDeletecapitol grille is good for expense account dining and brio is fun and classic cup for people watching.
ReplyDeletebut the monied class in this town is more likely to be found at a prairie village eatery with easy parking.
Apple and Nike and Vineyard Vines, these are great brands on the Plaza.
ReplyDeleteBarnes and Noble is fun for browsing if a person still reads books.
The Plaza never really figured out a couple of things that would have helped them:
ReplyDelete(1) a rooftop restaurant with charm
(2) outside, terrace dining in general
(3) incorporating the creek into a quiet, relaxed dining venue.
Maybe Ward Parkway north of the creek could be buried and the soa e on top integrated with the creek for a walking and dining venue area.
Nichols Parkway is still call Broadway by many people.
ReplyDeletePlaza losing money.... GOOD White folks losing money....GREAT!!!
ReplyDelete8:48 rather you fools like it or not is actually very correct with some good facts. My granddad just confirmed it with me as I wondered and knew he would probably know some of the answers. But most of you spewing shit out your pie holes have never been too concerned about facts and the truth or least as I did find out first then speak.
ReplyDeleteYou can give them the whole damn city or name every building or street after king but it won’t be enough! They don’t want stuff or things, they want YOU to leave or be subservient.
ReplyDeleteanybody know who owns the plaza now?
ReplyDeleteThe Raphael is a neat hotel for visitors to Kansas City but it's somewhat expensive.
ReplyDeleteAnthology is a nice-looking assisted living facility.
ReplyDeleteBut did the tear gas get them?
10:11. The creek is for flood control. During heavy rains it fills up and even overflows. Putting a dining venue down in there would be grade A stupid. It does have nice walking paths that are available during times when it is not flooding.
ReplyDeleteNordstrum's may be the future if the Plaza; i.e., no Nordstrum's, no Plaza but yes Nordstrum's and it's fine.
ReplyDeleteHall's was a great upscale retailer, really great.
ReplyDeleteHow about a whole new park with statue of MLK somewhere?
ReplyDeleteThere is already an MLK park.
DeleteLike the babies they are, if low-lifes can't afford to shop in an area, they will wreck it for everybody. That's played out on the Plaza over the last decade. The worst characteristics of human nature come to the fore. The violent protests in KC and around the country are the latest examples of that.
ReplyDeleteThey should rename it "Caucasian Fountain" in honor of all the white support in the election of the first African American president in 2008 and 2012. Without that voting block, Obama never would have won and provide evidence that the country must not be as racist as liberals say they are.
ReplyDeleteThe Plaza will be fine unless it's truly the End Times.
ReplyDeleteLucas says "No person accelerated white flight, redlining and racial division in the Kansas City area more than J.C. Nichols"
ReplyDeleteHis lawerly speak makes you believe its all Nichols' fault. The real driver for white flight has been and is the uber liberal city council. Their policies, corruption, and influence on the KCPSD have stained KC and driven those with means out of the city.
The Plaza and Kansas City are both doomed so Lucas and his posse can rename every street and building. No one cares anymore. Blacks hate whites. The message is loud and clear.
ReplyDeleteWe need to close the Plaza. Tear it down. Make a wide open grassy park. We dont need a rat infested shopping center that 100 years old there. Its a stupid place
ReplyDelete1105, that would be too expensive.
ReplyDeleteBreaking News: The Ghetto is franchising on the Plaza. Coming soon to a town near you.
ReplyDeleteThat James Earl Ray was a helluva guy and a great America hero.
ReplyDelete9:27
ReplyDeleteBrio is closed permanently.
Don't know about any of the others.
the landscape of the plaza is changing.
ReplyDeletethey better hope nordstrum's is still committed.
I stated this year's ago. Kansas City will destroy it self.Its the BLUE FLU. MANY TOURISTS HAVE ABANDONED THIS TOWN .Look at other visitors areas in Missouri, They have great Business do to the Disruptions.
ReplyDeleteWell, this is something I would support. JC Nichols was a racist and his covenants devastated Black communities. If any street in Kansas City should be renamed, it’s this one. Let’s move on this... pronto.
ReplyDeleteDon't forget to rename the Kansas City "Chiefs" as it is a racist name.
ReplyDeleteKansas City "Royals" speaks of white monarchy privilege.
Jackson County Executive Frank "White" needs to change his racist last name.
ReplyDeleteI would suspect Harry Truman and Saint Luke were racists. Better rename Truman Medical Center and Saint Lukes Hospital to MLK Hospital.
ReplyDeleteWhen I hear the term Brush Creek, I immediately think of systematic racism. Martin Luther King Creek would be more race sensitive.
ReplyDeleteThis City has much Larger problems then renaming a street.Just wait until the winter of 2021. Huge unemployment Little City tax revenues.THE have nots will be Robbing. And the Police will just show up to do the paperwork. YOUR CITY IS TOAST.
ReplyDeleteLet’s say we remained everything and don’t. You may not realize this but Kansas City had a MLK hospital. It was closed because nobody knew how to run it and they were stealing everything.
ReplyDeleteThere is discussion to change it back to it's original name: Mill Creek Blvd.
ReplyDelete"I would suspect Harry Truman and Saint Luke were racists. Better rename Truman Medical Center and Saint Lukes Hospital to MLK Hospital."
ReplyDeleteAnd yet Truman desegregated the armed forces by presidential decree. Weird for a racist.
Calling the protesters Right Wing is laughable. Someone needs to crawl out of their parents basement!
ReplyDeleteI might move to KCMO just to vote against that shit stain Quentin Lucas. It's obvious he's attempting to use his position as mayor to move into national politics, and in doing so places his interests over those the city at every turn. He's not going anywhere, anyone with an IQ over room temperature sees through his bullshit within minutes of talking him. Disingenuous mother fucker.
ReplyDeleteI am offended the name "Prospect Avenue".
ReplyDeleteI want it changed to "Coon's Way".
And yet Truman continued to use racial slurs in private conversation for the rest of his life, said William Leuchtenburg, president of the American Historical Association. Unweird.
ReplyDeleteAnd change the name of "Tracy Street" There are too many fat white bitches named Tracy and I am offended.
ReplyDeleteChange it to something like "Jigaboo Lane".
And fuck that"Swope Parkway" bullshit.
ReplyDeleteHe was some rich white asshole.
I like "Ubangi Blvd."
I'm celebrating my white privilege by drinking a Natty Light and scratching my balls.
ReplyDelete"And yet Truman continued to use racial slurs in private conversation for the rest of his life, said William Leuchtenburg, president of the American Historical Association. Unweird."
ReplyDeleteAnd yet private slurs do not negate his public acts. Weird.
ReplyDeletejust wondering...how many funerals is George Floyd having?
Really!
DeleteAnd he was a convicted felon, not an inspirational human being. He shouldn't have died, no. But he was a thug and a criminal.
Let's just rename every MF'ing thing in the country to MLK, as a matter of fact just change the country's name to United States of f'ing MLK and just get it over with.
ReplyDelete^^Didn't you hear? They chopped him up into parts and sent them all over the country by Fed-ex.
ReplyDeleteThey are getting 10 or more funerals outta that meth'd up piece of shit.
^^Meant for 2:34
ReplyDeleteIf Seattle City Hall was occupied, is that going to next in Kansas City?
ReplyDeleteSeems like Seattle leads the country on trends.
it's already confusing because you go up so-called nichols parkway to be on broadway.
ReplyDeleteif paseo changes to mlk, there should be a statue along there.
ReplyDeleteWe need to change the chiefs to the Martin Luther kings and the royals to the Jackson fives to keep the liberal elites happy
ReplyDelete@2:45 - I hope so. Enjoy seeing Mayor Quentin Lucas on his knees begging.
ReplyDeleteWe’ll build a statue of a job application
ReplyDelete6:26 this is not the appropriate place to be rational.
ReplyDeleteStop whining, pull your pants up and get a job!
ReplyDeleteIt's a free for all now. Anything to pacify the black mob. I were black, I wouldn't miss the opportunity to make hay while the sun shines.
ReplyDelete
ReplyDelete"And yet private slurs do not negate his public acts. Weird."
And yet Trump provided African Americans with the highest increase in employment in history and yet most of them still whine about his public acts. Unweird
Name it "Killa City Blvd."
ReplyDeleteUnder the radar this year in February, most of the plaza was recently sold to the Simon Property Group. I'm guessing they regret that decision now. They just bought a lot of problems.
ReplyDeleteDon't worry, MAGATS. I'm still safe down here in the bunker. Remember Dear Leader in these trying times...
ReplyDelete^^^^ Hey, Diddling Don. Did Mexico pay for the wall around the White House, too?
ReplyDeleteThis Chud's 401k is booming! Thanks rioters! Now if you thugs will only take over Chicago's city hall, I can retire! By the way, a 401k is what people of white privilege get to have when they work. Their companies give them free money! It's amazing the privilege I get!
ReplyDelete350, BREAKING NEWS--Simon trying to cancel deal.
ReplyDelete"And yet Trump provided African Americans with the highest increase in employment in history and yet most of them still whine about his public acts. Unweird"
ReplyDeleteWow. And he did that all by himself. Those golf courses must need a lot of caddies.
321 reflects some wisdom: whatever about you that puts you at a disadvantage, be it race, sexual orientation, appearance, or whatever, you'll personally be better off to accept it and work around it instead of dwelling on it. if you wallow in excuses, you'll soon be 50 and have nothing and no happiness.
ReplyDeleteNo, he did it by reducing the regulations that were strangling the economy, cutting taxes, erecting tariffs for critical industries, and cracking down on illegal immigration. That created more opportunities for African Americans to find jobs and get ahead with honest work.
ReplyDeleteInteresting DST Systems Inc only hired white, catholic, Rockhurst graduates for executive level jobs. Blacks not welcome. But the DST staff sure got civil awards and mention as get city supporters.
ReplyDeleteTaubman-Simon deal may hurt the Plaza. Who owns it? Who calls the shots?
ReplyDeleteThanks to my white privilege, I get a 401K (6% match) and pension too!
ReplyDeletethe Plaza needs to reopen asap
ReplyDeleteWhat's with the DST poster ? Didn't DST get bought out and no longer exists?
ReplyDeleteMayor Quenten Lucas kneels to anarchy.
ReplyDeleteMayor Lucas' legacy will be the destruction of Kansas City. Businesses and homeowners flee before the next series of riots that will occur during his tenure.
In two short weeks Mayor Lucas rolled back 30 years of growth in Kansas City.
Enjoy that BLM / ANTIFA participation trophy Lucas ! You just screwed your city's residents.
Tear the fountain down. Now!!!it represents the racist in this city. It mus go. Don’t sell it does not deserve the dignity of being sold.
ReplyDeleteHe will always be the 10-10-10 Mayor thanks to the national media.
ReplyDeleteWhat has he done for Black on Black that occurred and continues on his watch?
If only he put as much effort in BOB crime as he he does 10-10-10 and the protests.
What a misguided do nothing see not the big picture mayor! Let’s hope he gets real soon.
Top 10-10-10 (sorry Lucas) store the plaza needs that are not racist:
ReplyDelete1. Dollar General ( to buy specific stuff)
2. The Dollar Store
3. Nails done Cheap
4. Asian Massage Parlor
5. More Coffee Shops
6. Lamars
7. Paycheck Lending & Pawn Co
8. Daytime Day at a time Labor
9. Housekeeping Cleaning Company labor
10. Democratic Jihad HQs against Trump
All these cheap-ass stores can help the plaza enormously.
Like most, I think George Floyd received brutal treatment and THOSE cops (not all cops) should be prosecuted. However, these “demonstrations” are completely out of hand. There are many reasons greater than whitey why the blacks live like they do. Like children, they require constant supervision to keep from killing one another and other major crimes. Until they can be civilized enough to meld into a civilized society they shouldn’t be coddled. The white people who think they’re doing the blacks a favor with their protesting, etc are just making the problem worse. You don’t teach a teenager responsibility by giving them full reign as an adult.
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