Over the weekend, local blogger Scooter J wrote an astounding post that pleads with local non-smokers to do their fair share for the benefit of this town.
Because it's been a week now and I haven't seen any of you at any of my regular haunts yet... just empty tables and barstools sitting waiting for you.The post offers some sound reasoning and first-person examples of the negative impact of Kansas City's smoking ban.
Scooter J nailed it.
ReplyDeleteIt's legislation by capri-pant wearing, bunco-playing suburban hausfraus that I would still like to bang when I see them at Target, although I hate myself for it.
It's the Pussification of America that George Carlin ranted about. Everywhere must be Chucky Cheese for these people to be happy,
Scooter makes a great point. And I think evidence will show that this ban hurt Kansas City businesses in the long run.
ReplyDeleteGreat point? Whether or not the ban hurts some bars is completely irrelevant. It's about public safety.
ReplyDeleteA WHOLE WEEK!!!! And everything isn't completely turned around.
I don't hear you complaining about fire inspections. Those also cost businesses money. How about the health department?
You quasi-libertarian types are all about freedom of choice only when it helps you.
And to "Smoky", this is actually legislation passed by a mojority of voters in Kansas City, MO. You know, that thing called "Democracy". It's amazing how that works.
Fire inspections does not equal smoking ban. You uptight busy-bodies don't even go to these places and realize that in many cases 90% of the customers and 100% of the employees are smokers. So whose health are you protecting? You're now forcing not only the customers but the employees too to go outside and absolutely no one gets any benefit from it except for a few high and mighty people who get the smug satisfaction of knowing they got their way as the continue to hang out at generic chains.
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ReplyDelete>>You uptight busy-bodies don't even go to these places
Really? I appreciate you keeping tabs on my bar habits, but I'm sorry to inform you that you're wrong on this. Actually, next time you're in one of these places, note the number of people who don't go outside. There are plenty of us.
>>in many cases 90% of the customers and 100% of the employees are smokers
Wow! That's an excellent grasp of statistics. "In many Cases" and 100%! That's like saying, "In Many Cases, 100% of people are murders." it MAKES NO SENSE.
What about the >90% of cases where not all employees are smokers? OK, we'll sweep those under the rug.
>>You're now forcing not only the customers but the employees too to go outside
Waaahhhhhhh! What a fucking baby! Outside????? NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! NOT OUTSIDE!!!! THE HORROR!!!! THE ABSOLUTE FUCKING HORROR THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO STEP OUT INTO THE AIR, UNPROTECTED BY A ROOF OR WALLS!
While I do feel sorry for your agoraphobia, it sounds like a personal problem.
>>Fire inspections does not equal smoking ban
True. But they are both forms of regulation. Your camp loves the argument that "a business owner should be free to do what they choose". But regulations are sometimes necessary to protect peoples' health.
Perhaps Nick would prefer that all places resemble Applebee's?
ReplyDeleteSafe, homogenized, and where your delicate alveoli can be free from any parts per million of (gasp) smoke.
Hooray!! Now Little Timmy and his Cystic Fibrosis can rock the bar scene!!
This isn't about protecting others health and d-bags like Nick know it deep down. It's about their need to be meddling busybodies.
The regulations you are talking about protect them from hidden dangers. You'd have to be a moron to not be able to tell if a place ppermits the use of a LEGAL PRODUCT on its premises.
ReplyDeleteAnd Anon is correct. I personally go to two places regularly where I know for a fact that the owner and every bartender and server is a smoker. That's 100%. And the last few times I went in the only people there were regulars that I know and I happen to know that most of them are smokers too. So, yes, you guys have forced this ban through to the detriment of the actual customers and employess that really go to these places.
Tony, the smoke haters do fill the bars and other venues. They were never banned from investing their own money into smoke-free venues either.
ReplyDeleteThey call smokers selfish. These bans were based on LIES and scare-mongering. Care about the children, really, how come so many of them are on anti-depressants, perfectionists are hard to please.
It is about control, nothing more nothing less. What will the puritans allow our children to do, work like drones to keep them in their old age.
The UK is losing around 30 pubs/clubs a week, that is a lot of isolation for many.
Tolerant non-smokers and smokers alike to do want to be infected with the hatred or stench of the antis either.
>>Perhaps Nick would prefer that all places resemble Applebee's?
ReplyDeletePerhaps not.
>>Safe, homogenized, and where your delicate alveoli can be free from any parts per million of (gasp) smoke.
In logic, we call that a false dilemma. The truth is, you can have Safe, homogenized places that allow smoking (like Applebees did until the ban), and unique places that don't. Are you going to tell me The RecordBar will die? Grinders?
>>This isn't about protecting others health and d-bags like Nick know it deep down.
WOW! Amazing read on me. Amazing. You should be a therapist or something.
Boy, you smokers are a bunch of fucking babies! Wahhh! I have to go outside! Wahhhhhhhh.
I dare you to get on a plane, fly to NY or CA, and see how all the bars are shut down. See how no one has ANY FUN there because they can't smoke in a bar.
Or, you can see that it is NO problem to go outside and smoke. I used to do it. Didn't bother me a bit. And at least you'll have a bunch a fucking crybabies around with whom to commiserate.
wow, someone should really punch this nick cunt in his smug little face. Someone else do it- I'm enjoying a delicious Dunhill right now.
ReplyDeleteThe rights of smokers = The right to wear a throat ring.
ReplyDeleteDam I don't drink alcohol
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