TKC BREAKING AND EXCLUSIVE NEWS!!! CONTROVERSIAL KANSAS CITY TRANSIT ORDINANCE CONFRONTS COUNCIL OPPOSITION NOW THAT IT TURNS OUT THE TOY TRAIN STREETCAR IS A LEMON!!!
The brand new Kansas City toy train streetcar has broken down at least four times on record since its debut earlier this month. If it was a car, the owners would most likely return the troubled vehicle with protection under Missouri's Lemon Law.
Like it or not, it seems that yesterday's Kansas City toy train streetcar breakdown and emergency maintenance is only the beginning of toy train streetcar trouble as Eurotrash transit is more prone to problems and delays that Midwestern Americans can't even begin to comprehend or accept . . . I.E. Kansas City is a lot more uptight than Spaniards who don't have anywhere in particular to be on time . . .
To wit . . .
NOW THAT MORE KANSAS CITY RESIDENTS AND VOTERS ARE TROUBLED ABOUT THE REALITY OF THE OLD AND BUSTED TOY TRAIN STREETCAR . . . A TRANSIT RESOLUTION IS FACING SKEPTICISM FROM THE COUNCIL!!!
Remember that we talked about voter resistance to this effort from Council Lady Jolie Justus yesterday . . .
After our blog community broke the news, journalist Steve Vockrodt clowned the voter angst against the legislation . . . But word in the comments is that he's trying to find a safe place to land now that The Pitch is in trouble again. They say that he's going to take his snoozy brand of reporting to the Star which shouldn't help anybody out . . . But I digress . . .
Here's the important part . . .
Let's not forget that the streetcar cost two council dudes their jobs:
Both former Council Dude Glover and Councilman Dick Davis were strident supporters of this transit effort and were subsequently kicked out of office for their toy train support among many other concerns . . .
And so . . .
THE CURRENT CITY COUNCIL IS FAR MORE SKEPTICAL OF TOY TRAIN STREETCAR EXPANSION AND THIS ORDINANCE NOW CONFRONTS AN EFFORT TO POSTPONE OR KILL IT ALTOGETHER!!!
Beyond the glitzy grand opening and economic theory hype, the reality of the toy train streetcar has started to kick-in and the debate over expansion has been derailed by constant breakdowns and increasing voter opposition.
Developing . . .
Is four breakdowns in a month acceptable to streetcar advocates? That's what I want to know.
ReplyDeleteOf course there will be problems and I think a few minor glitches should be tolerated.
But how often can we expect the streetcar to break down?
I've seen a bus in need of maintenance but I've never actually ridden one that stopped because of a problem.
My question is simple and I don't have an opinion on this topic yet: How often should the streetcar break down?
Lemon is a bit much but that lead photo cracked my shit up. Well played sir.
ReplyDeleteGlover was a champion of the streetcar and streetcar expansion. It didn't get him far. Not even 2.2 miles and a return trip to council.
ReplyDeleteLOLZ. Christmas came early for Tony with this debacle.
ReplyDeleteAnd methinks the gifts have only just started to roll in.
Toot toot, clunk.
i would think a minor breakdown once every three or four months would be considered tolerable...MINOR BREAKDOWN,i say
ReplyDeleteLet's see what happens in six months.
ReplyDeleteGlover is a shitheal of a human being. That is what ultimately cost him his throne.
ReplyDeleteA lot of hyperbole here but the toy truck pulling the streetcar just looks bad.
ReplyDeleteMaybe the streetcar won't run if the tracks are wet? Let's see what happens this winter before we spend $100,000,000 a mile to expand it. Yes that's right. This boondoggle's cost are a lot closer to $100,000,000 a mile than what city hall wants us to believe..
ReplyDeleteKeep tabs on the maintenance bills. That should really add up. Who's over that? How's that budgeted? How much to tow a street car?
ReplyDeleteWhy would anyone on this blog care if the streetcar is breaking down. No one on this site will or has ever ridden it?
ReplyDeleteMaybe they should have ejector seats installed on the streetcars for rider safety.
ReplyDeleteAnd our infrastructure has gone to hell. That much money? You know that has got to go into some deep greedy pockets. They don't really care about this city. Evil cuckolds.
ReplyDeleteThis isn't a high quality project. There are a lot of flaws in the rush to bring in on schedule and under budget.
ReplyDeleteGood luck
streetcar is about development, not transit. This is embarrassing for the city but as real estate grows making some folks rich and gentrifies many average folks who initially liked the idea of a streetcar running near their dwelling, the city will use that as their barometer for success. Inconveniences like this and the folks who can't afford to live in Crossroads anymore are irrelevant.
ReplyDeleteStreetcar is the enemy of public transit though, because it uses a disproportionate amount of transportation funds for an inferior product based on hype rather than effectiveness. I hate to see a product we invested in fail like this but folks need to see this shit show so we don't make similar bad investments in the future.
Oh yah I'm going to take my kids down there to ride the streetcar that can't even stay on the tracks.
ReplyDeleteOh yah sure I will!
Our great grandparents realized that if a streetcar breaks down the whole route is screwed. There's no way to get another streetcar around a stalled streetcar. That's one reason they decided buses are better.
ReplyDeleteOf course most of our great grandparents lived in cities and did not come from rural Kansas, Nebraska, or some state very much like them. They were, in other words, much more sophisticated than the Johnson twins.
They're not turning this juncture into lemonade, rather piss. Piss on you, piss on the consumer, and the citizens.
ReplyDeleteMaybe crowd fund repair donations from the downtown 318 and 550 who voted for this joke?
ReplyDeleteAre there any other construction and design related flaws, missteps, and miscalculations we need to be aware of that passed so we could be cool and look world class as quickly as possible?
ReplyDeleteShockingly, the Tiny's Kvetching Cunts denizens don't understand, or care to understand, what a TOD policy actually does.
ReplyDeleteI''ll give you a little hint: it's frees the market to decide how to best use land, eliminating nanny-state parking requirements, vacant unused easement regulations, restrictive since-use zoning laws, unnecessary public works requirement for over-built, under-funded, under-used road infrastructure, and promotes the building of all the things the "SMART"KC/CFRG people pretend to be for: sidewalks, crosswalks, bus lanes, etc.
And it only does this 1/2 mile around transit nodes, so nice, quiet peaceful single-family residential neighborhoods are preserved and protected.
But none of the 10 yelping, yowling trolls on this blog really cares.
Fortunately, council people and real Kansas Citians do, so all of Dan Coffey and Patrick Touhey's histrionics only serve to alienate actual Kansas Citians from their anti-city agenda.
No mention of the now regular mechanical problems, I see. :)
DeleteSomeone needs to figure out why we took our money to Spain when there are companies that could have produced street trains and provided parts and major maintenance as close as 200 miles right here in America.
ReplyDeleteDon't worry it has the Troy Schulte, Tom Gerend, and David Johnson official seal of safety!!!!
ReplyDeleteLOL
ReplyDelete"I'll give you a little hint: it's frees the market to decide how to best use land, eliminating nanny-state parking requirements, vacant unused easement regulations, restrictive since-use zoning laws, unnecessary public works requirement for over-built, under-funded, under-used road infrastructure"
ReplyDeleteHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Now that's funny being the crooks and liars are drawing up the TOD to put money into their own pockets.
Ding! Ding! Ding! goes the ....oops off the tracks!
ReplyDelete^^Tony's Tin Foil hats.
ReplyDeleteBrian Stalder, "professional" cartoonist and amateur transit expert! His extensive experience in evaluating transit systems includes Twitter, Reddit, and commenting on a blog for a diminishing group of sad, suburban trolls.
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, Northeast is rotting, despite 100s of millions in taxpayer investment, while the area along the streetcar line continues to attract residents at a pace not seen anywhere else in the metro, even in the subsidized suburbs...
It's a nice line. Be nice to have a working streetcar for it.
DeleteYou live in a fantasy land and have the amusement park ride to show for it!
DeleteFantasy land = White world = Haze of racial superiority or White supremacy, whichever term does it for you
DeleteTotal non sequitur, but ok....
DeleteBut some are paying for it, and the choice to focus on the grift of eco devo rather than the city's real problems impacts the entire community.
DeleteUm, it happened. Please do read if you can.
DeleteShit, even my Bowflex did what it was supposed to do for the first 2 months before I started using it to hand clothes to dry.
ReplyDeleteIt was seriously funny seeing Lyin' Dave tweet about how neat it was buses we're being used to rescue the passengers!
ReplyDeleteROFLMAO!
If the el cheapo switch fails again the drivers can just throw the streetcar into reverse to avoid derailing.
ReplyDeleteWow! We made the Washington Times! Goin' National! Streetcar Strong!
ReplyDeleteKansas City streetcar running again after derailment
We need to get the Feds to give us more taxpayer money so we can extend this technological marvel asap!
ReplyDeleteHas anyone noticed the cracks along the building foundations widening a block or two either direction along the tracks? I know the ground settles over time but it is really getting wider. Take a walk. Look for yourself. Is it not so?
ReplyDeleteThe stockyards were downtown. What kind of geographical and topographical survey was done on the land? We know about Pendergast concrete. The rusted water pipes crumble in your hands like dust. Sure no pockets are filling up underground? It really was a rush job. It shows. What's really going on?
ReplyDeleteTrue.
ReplyDeleteSo the buses gave away free rides to the street car riders. Maybe we could have just skipped over spending a lot of money to find out that BUSES are and will always be the workhorse of the Transit System.
ReplyDelete+1 11:43
ReplyDeleteTony, the lemon on a rail cart is a winner
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ReplyDeleteThere were 10 people on the trolley when it broke. Did ridership pick up when they switched to buses?
ReplyDelete10,000 or 20,000 people rode it immediately!!!! Davie Johnson can count!!
Deletehow much is weather a factor? what will happen when the freezing rain season sets in? when it's five below in january? europe has bad weather, too, but not as extreme.
ReplyDeletei hope it works in bad weather which is when it'll be needed most.
speaking of bad weather, the shelters aren't that great even in the rain.
all that said, i'm rooting for the train's success.
I'm rooting for the Hindenberg's success.
ReplyDeletePlease let us know how that all works out.
Wow,10 riders? How do streetcar folks come up with these wild ridership claims???
ReplyDeletehey ya me too !! shes a real turd boiler but im still pulling for her!
ReplyDelete12:50: Oh, the humanity!
ReplyDeleteGlover and Davis lost because of the streetcar? LOL.
ReplyDeleteDavis, maybe...but who gives a fuck, Northlanders are welfare queens, who want to pretend it's 1987 forever, meanwhile the neighborhoods the built just 30 years ago are fucking rotten trash, while urban neighborhoods from 100 years ago are thriving.
And Glover lost to a pro-streetcar candidate.
How did the 2 openly anti-streetcar candidates Bryan Stalder and Terrence Nash do, pray tell....?
I spent $1000 and got more votes than streetcar.
DeleteIt will go down to the Plaza along Main Street. It will make its way to U MKC. All what is asked is to not forget about the infrastructure. But the money has to come from somewhere, does it not? And that is how the game is played....I get it. Bad guy not bad. Good guy not good. This pawn just wants to enjoy the show. No harm to anyone. You all are brilliant.
ReplyDeleteNope. They said we don't want to ride on no stinkin' buses!
ReplyDeleteRain 'Might Have Played A Factor' In KC Streetcar Derailment KCUR
ReplyDeleteLMAO!
Well, when sexy Cindy was on her junket in sunny Spain, rain may not have come up. Can we vote these clowns out now?
DeleteWhat are the chances the A/C systems are up to dealing with KC summer?
ReplyDeleteHigh heat coupled with high humidity with the surrounding pavement about hot enough to fry an egg. The heat they have in Spain. The humidity? Not so much.
being able to stop these beautiful trolly cars is important,in all types of weather
ReplyDeleteim sure they'll bring in a ringer from san fran,,my bet,and have it all worked out in no time
FTW
ReplyDeleteThere's "no humidity in Spain" hahaha! What a fucking rube.
ReplyDeleteWell let us guess "some are talking about expanding it" must be Davey Toy Train Johnson and his crew of unimaginative misfits otherwise known as the Kansas City Regional Transit Alliance.
ReplyDeleteLeave it to these rural bred dumb ass parasites to talk about expansion after the line has only been operational for a whopping whole two and half weeks.
Nash was right on the airport and he was will be right on the streetcar. He was just to nice, not attacking his opponent for not taking any positions on issues.
ReplyDelete9:52 just can't understand all of the bad decisions that led to "unnecessary public works requirement for over-built, under-funded, under-used road infrastructure..." Don't know where 9:52 drives but most roads in KC are used a lot and in need of repair. If the city wants to invest in a street car as a development tool, that's fine as long as you maintain the rest of the public infrastructure. But they haven't and aren't. The two guys on the 29th floor at City Hall don't get that they're out of touch with the average Joe. The airport poll should've been a wake up call to them but they're so arrogant they still don't get it. Times have changed.
ReplyDeleteToo bad it was a work day, & every one was too busy to comment.
ReplyDeleteHa, Byron. Like you know anything about "work" days. You are a scumbag leech that feeds off of welfare and handouts because you are too lazy or too stupid to do anything useful. You must have forgotten that little fact.
DeleteAha, the Brookside super minority checks in at 2:58.
ReplyDeleteMore people rode the toy train in the first hour than voted for Terence "Too Nice" Nash. Because he's dumb, and his (and your) anti-city views don't represent those of most Brooksiders.
Which is why we voted for Jolie, who was vocally and openly in favor of the streetcar and expansion, by margins in the upper 80 and lower 90%s.
Go back to telling Sherry DeJanes how brave and special she is for stealing public land from her neighbors. "Save the Trolley Track" my ass.
3:16, yeah, it's that first 9:52 (second 9:52 is brilliant-and Hilly's TPP will be more "offshored" jobs) that wants the fantasy of ERRUHBAWDY living in the downtown density, sardined skyscrapers, overpacked public transit and bright lights on all around the clock!!!
ReplyDeleteOoh, ERRUHTHANG burby bubbled, picket fenced with a yard and fully accredited schools is downright EVIL. Those wide, wasteland highways are satanic with those endless semis and express package trucks hauling hemp lotions, organic kale, coffee beans and microbrews to the big city centers. And those farther-flung golf coursed, gated hoods that sprung up for the developers, judges, doctors and consultants are just roughing up all those roads and beating up those bridges to get to the urban center's courthouse and office towers. Middle-class soccer moms, big dogs and kiddies riding around those cul-de-sacs and strip malls and visiting downtown once a year (twice if they rode the TooT TooT) are the WORST.
Most roads in KC carry very light vehicle traffic. In fact, we don't have too much traffic on our roads, we have too little on most of them, allowing cars to careen around city streets at 55 miles per hour, unchecked by other traffic, un slowed by cars parked on the streets and also, unfortunately, we have so many lane miles of roads for so little population that we can't afford to maintain them at a reasonable tax rate.
ReplyDeleteIt's pretty simple math, who have to pay the same amount to build and maintain infrastructure for x square miles of city no matter how many people live on it. If KC doesn't promote returning people to the city, those who remain are forced to pay for more and more upkeep. As it is, urban KC has lost over 1/2 of the population it had in 1950, and while we've added population up north, we've added even more land and infrastructure burden.
So when Northlanders demand a new fire station to serve a huge growing area where almost no one lives, or demand sidewalks on long, overbuilt and underused streets than no one walks on because the neighborhoods were designed to necessitate the use of a car, not as a choice, but as a requirement, that costs just as much money as a fire station in midtown with 5,000 people within a square mile or sidewalk in midtown where 10 houses pay the tax burden for 500' of sidewalk instead of 2.
If KC truly wants to fund its infrastructure upkeep in a sustainable and affordable way, it need to repopulate the city, and develop more cohesively up north.
The streetcar, no matter how you feel about it, is attracting residents who pay taxes. Even if they live in tax deferred housing, they still pay sales and e-tax, which is the greater part of KC's municipal budget.
Meanwhile the city spent 70 million on sewers in Twin Creeks where literally no one lives and not a single development has occurred, yet nary a peep from the people who are so concerned about "Responsible government".
Completely unsupported, even crazy assertion about this broken toy. It's already attracted 24 million tourists or something! Do you even have one toe planted in reality?
Delete4:23 need to get a fuckng job. Jesus, you are on here all day posting your angry little man blather and FEAR! OMG! Agenda 21! Nonsense.
ReplyDeleteHe's just scared that given the choice, all the cool kids won't choose the beige tract house like he did.
ReplyDeletePoor widdle baby, did mommy leave you behind? Is it scawey out Derek in de big mean world, where not everybody wants to play the same game as you! You should throw a widdle temper tantrum on the intweenet and tell the YOU DONT LIKE IT!
If nobody had any other choices, they'd HAVE to choose the same things as you, and then you'd fit right in!
Ok, pretty weird ad hominem. Unhinged rage. Are you just mad cause your toy keeps breaking? Not trying to trigger you.:)
DeleteHow much did they pay the bean counters that are giving us the ridership numbers? Did they graduate grade school? I keep watching it go by and hardly anyone is on it. Can I have that job or do you have to be a liar.
ReplyDeleteThe main requirement is you have to believe your own lies to get a job.
ReplyDeleteIf you want to work for Americas Super Duper Rock Star Mayor Lyin' Sly James you got to get on the team!
ReplyDeleteIt's either Sly's way or the highway!
4:14 you will have to learn voting for democrats for city council that have experience on city issues is just dumb. look at how Jolie screwed the rest of city on liquor ordinance.
ReplyDeleteDonna Mandelbaum and her ridership numbers - piss lapped up by the lamebrain, lapdog local media - are like Joe McCarthy and his list of card carrying communists.
ReplyDeleteI have here the names of 5 card carrying communists in the FBI. I mean 10 in the Department of State! I mean 100 in the White House!
Streetcar sucks & self appointed Internet Streetcar Defense force sucks harder than David Johnson on a Saturday night.
All the operator has to do is slam on the brakes when the derailment warning light starts blinking.
ReplyDeleteNever fear they may give a report to the Kansas City Transportation Authority Thursday.
ReplyDeleteLMAO!
Whole line should be shut down and carefully inspected before Mensa, Johnson, and Staubio (KCTA) gets somebody injured or killed.
ReplyDeleteI would rather they leave it closed until they figure out the problem. Would rather see the mayor embarrassed than anyone hurt.
ReplyDeleteAnother Shit City failure......brought to you by the Mexican Peter Beater.
ReplyDelete6:33 same here. What they are probably doing is trying to figure out how to spin themselves out of this while distracting the public with all the other nonsense they dish out every second of the day.
ReplyDeleteMaybe since they were cramming people into those tin cans like sardines to make it look like it's popular the weight caused some damage?
ReplyDeleteLOL
Hows ridership doing today?
ReplyDeleteThe rural dumb ass rube Dave is pushing Uber at the moment so maybe not to well?
ReplyDelete4:30/4:34 and all the diehard downtown density doofuses cannot admit that ERRUHTHANG nor ERRUHBAWDY is suited for stacking on high and packing in tight in the midst of screaming sirens and bright lights on all night in THE SHITTY, GRITTY CONCRETE JUNGLE!! (Well, not quite Detroit, yet).
ReplyDeleteSly guy said half that Etax is paid by those who WORK, but DO NOT LIVE in Kansas City. And how much of that tax makes its way far from the central core to the lush, gated suburban enclaves -- even, GASP! JoCo and beyond?! All those other counties gain property taxes, federal/state education funds, shopping, entertainment spending and civic/church/club support from these KC workers living where public schools are accredited and safety is statistically favorable.
Im not sure Jolie Justus is the best person to spearhead any proposal.
ReplyDeleteWe are SOooooo sick of this "do nothing " council member.
We got rid of Jim Glover FINALLY and Jolie going to get the boot.
Jolie just refuses to listen to ,or respond to her constituents. We are done
Cerner-- Honeywell-- those big engineering & law firms-- medical centers AND MANY MORE INSTITUTIONS have plenty employees driving from outside KC for the bargain fee of 1%. With KCPS still not meeting required standards, private schools unavailable or not affordable, families will continue to position for advantages in their children's education and residence location for stable property values.
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ReplyDeleteThis heavy crown...
ReplyDeleteNah, bitch, this isn't going to change anything. Given how things work in this city, the expansion to the plaza and UMKC will probably happen anyway.
ReplyDeleteOne of the things that I like about Bryan is that he is willing to own his comments.
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