There's a renewed grassroots effort to save a bit of Northeast Kansas City history . . .
CHECK THE NEW KANSAS CITY NORTHEAST ONLINE MOVEMENT TO SAVE AND RE-PURPOSE A SCHOOL ON THE BRINK OF DEMOLITION!!!
Check it:
Save Thacher, Save Our Schools
Mission statement:
Through Northeast collaboration we hope that a dedicated group of residents, business owners and concerned KC citizens will come together and help save this historic building which is one of the Historic Northeast's oldest and most elaborate icons.
Better still . . .
CHECK OUT A WHITE PAPER WHICH DETAILS HOPE TO TRANSFORM THACHER INTO SOMETHING THAT CAN HOUSE NEW COMMUNITY BIZ AND SERVICES!!!
We'll have more on this effort but for now it's important to know that Kansas City neighborhood activists have already started debating politicos on this topic and hope to make their voices heard on future plans for the school.
Developing . . .
Beautiful building. Hope they can save it.
ReplyDeleteAll they need, just like all the other folks who want to save this or that old building, is a few million dollars and hundreds of thousands every year to operate and maintain the place.
ReplyDeleteOnce you combine bucks with good intentions, you can reach your goal.
But they'll probably find that there aren't enough people who are willing to VOLUNTARILY give up their money, so the goup will go to the politicians in the hope that the government will get those same people to INVOLUNTARILY give up their money by taxing them.
Just get in the endless line on the 22nd floor at 12th and Oak.
Is this something that will be fixed up so the niggers can just fuck up?
ReplyDeleteBuy it than. Yes such a beautiful boarded up building. Raze it!!!!
ReplyDeleteit would cost millions just to remove the asbestos.
ReplyDeleteWhy not just knock it down and build a park or community center? More jobs, energy efficient, and less cost.
Too bad this town is too backwards to have a group like Portland's McMennamin's brothers that restore these kinds of places into pubs, music venues and such.
ReplyDeleteBut hey, we've got that sweet new liquor store at 39th and state line to be proud of... real classy looking joint.
You guys, the picture Tony shared is of the addition. We agree that the fire damaged portion should be razed. The original structure is still salvageable.
ReplyDeleteIf Historic Northeast allows historic structures to be torn down, we become Just Northeast.
Yesterday's announcement that Westport Middle School is going to feature a Local Pig satellite and a craft beer store got a lot of people excited. Thacher isn't an appropriate location to sell alcohol, but there are still plenty of services that Northeast's "urban pioneers" have to leave to neighborhood to find.
You can't tell me that if the top floor of Thacher provided Arts Incubator shared studio space, the second floor office space for Northeast's various non-profits, and the main floor a bakery, cafe, news stand, lunch spot, etc, that the place wouldn't be utilized by the buildings tenants, the neighbors, and even the students and faculty at Northeast.
It's an attractive building on prime real estate, and there is literally NO REASON to tear the entire thing down. The school board's reasoning is that it will cost the same amount to tear down the fire damaged addition as it would to just tear down the entire thing, but that is short sighted and disrespectful to the tax payers who built and maintained it for over 125 years.
Northeast already has a space designated for a community center at 9th & Van Brunt, and it's estimated to cost about $15M. Thacher could be rehabbed for around $5M and LEASE space. It's in an urban renewal zone, so it's eligible for property tax abatement for 10+ years AND it's eligible to be registered as an historic building with the state and fed.
> literally NO REASON to tear the entire thing down
ReplyDeleteasbestos? lead paint?
> it's eligible to be registered as an historic building with the state and fed.
that would be the absolute worst thing you would want to do with a building you are trying to repurpose.
If Elbryan wasn't one of the featured members of TKC's blog Tony really wouldn't give as crap about this unless it was going to be turned into a way station for border jumpers.
ReplyDeleteMarket Rate Apartments!
ReplyDeleteWal Mart
ReplyDeleteIf they do anything at all with the building it will be destroyed by the riffraff that has taken over the northeast. Sad
ReplyDeleteHow bout a neighborhood prison? Appears to be something that is sustainable here in CK.
ReplyDeleteProbably end up a used car lot.
ReplyDeleteCertainly we can do something with it with the anticipated mass arrivals of people dying to move to and live here for the toy train and fiber and of course let's not forget the tourists who are going to make visiting CK a priority over their trips to New York, London, Paris, Hong Kong, and Montreal.
ReplyDeleteWe need no school budilings like this. Face book will continue to grow, all users worldwide will continue to benefit’s the convenience of communication, the businesses, marketers will continue to benefit to make money from face book while advertising their products to face book at the same time invest in face book stock ( it’s give and take, advertise your products at the same time you invest) at the end of the day all comes out a winner.
ReplyDeleteAll about the teens and older they are still in face book, six graders will start to learn to navigate the computer by logging in face book accounts in school in preparation for their high School, high School kids will continue to use the Computers in School using face book accounts in preparation for their colleges courses that requires computers, doing their reports and locating online books and favorite clothes, foods, toys inside face book firewalls. The teens and colleges students will continue to navigate to learn about to know about the status of their ’likes’ crushes, ex boyfriends and girlfriends or ex husbands and wives or mistresses or ex mistresses, it’s all about communication. Face book will peak when it reach 7 billion users, right now active users more than 1 billion, by that time earth population is 8 billion plus, I’m one of them and my next descendant generation s to come, it’s a long way to go.
so repurpose the building? it is clear that most have zero idea where this building is. No matter what business you make it it will fail! That is unless it is a business giving benefits away..........Tear it down.
ReplyDeleteYou guys, the picture Tony shared is of the addition. We agree that the fire damaged portion should be razed. The original structure is still salvageable.
ReplyDeleteProving that even when you have an idiot in your back pocket, it's better than nobody.
If Historic Northeast allows historic structures to be torn down, we become Just Northeast.
You already are.
Yesterday's announcement that Westport Middle School is going to feature a Local Pig satellite and a craft beer store got a lot of people excited. Thacher isn't an appropriate location to sell alcohol, but there are still plenty of services that Northeast's "urban pioneers" have to leave to neighborhood to find.
Maybe you could call it Choomerville for all the dope smokers up there.
You can't tell me that if the top floor of Thacher provided Arts Incubator shared studio space, the second floor office space for Northeast's various non-profits, and the main floor a bakery, cafe, news stand, lunch spot, etc, that the place wouldn't be utilized by the buildings tenants, the neighbors, and even the students and faculty at Northeast.
Do you really want me to tell you? A news stand? You roller-skating chooming sodimizers can't even read.
It's an attractive building on prime real estate, and there is literally NO REASON to tear the entire thing down. The school board's reasoning is that it will cost the same amount to tear down the fire damaged addition as it would to just tear down the entire thing, but that is short sighted and disrespectful to the tax payers who built and maintained it for over 125 years.
It's a run-down hazardous piece of structurally-failing bricks and it hasn't been maintained in about fifteen years. Dig deep and you'll see what I mean. Some old buildings have "good bones," this heap is a boneless wing.
Northeast already has a space designated for a community center at 9th & Van Brunt, and it's estimated to cost about $15M. Thacher could be rehabbed for around $5M and LEASE space. It's in an urban renewal zone, so it's eligible for property tax abatement for 10+ years AND it's eligible to be registered as an historic building with the state and fed.
The Van Brunt site has something going for it. This has nothing.
Quit sucking at the federal teat like a big crybaby and buy the damn thing if it's so wonderfully viable. You can pay for the asbestos cleanup, the ADA reconstruction, killing the vermin, gutting the heating system, installing AC, and a ton of other things to bring it up to 21st century standards.
There's a reason people build new and tear down old. Try it.
Look at that Roast spot
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I dont know much about northeast. Growing up I heard stories about Italians and violent crime associated with northeast so we stayed away from there, as well as parts of KCMO where you always locked your doors.
ReplyDeleteNow I hear northeast has changed and is even worse than before. The problem is there were original gangsters and now its just random thugs with no purpose.
what a terrible place to want to raise children!
I'd rather raise my kids in northeast than in the suburbs. Every kid I know from there whose parents gave a damn turned out just fine. Sadly, most parents don't.
ReplyDeleteI'd rather have my kids raised in an atmosphere where they learn some street smarts and not to be afraid of minorities than in the golden ghetto where all they know is suburbia.
@1258 so that number is 3?
ReplyDeleteMost of the comments here are hilarious and uninformed. Northeast is one of Kansas City's best kept secrets; great homes, low prices, lower violent crime rate than midtown.
ReplyDeleteThere was a time when the Kansas City Museum was maintained and it was a great attraction. Sadly, anyone who hasn't lived in Kansas City more than 15 years barely remembers it.
Asbestos and lead paint is a reason to demolish a building? So basically tear down everything older than 60 years? That's the most absurd thing I've ever heard. no doubt when it's torn down, the contractor will opt to get the job done quickly without regard for environmental regulations and pay the fine.
I imagine that it's true Tony doesn't really care too much about this particular structure, but he's great about sharing things that are going on in Kansas City whether he cares about them or not, and whether the issue is brought to him by a regular commenter or a random person.
It's really a shame that more people don't care.
Turn it into a police substation ... that's what the NE needs more than anything.
ReplyDelete8:40 Why don't you turn it into a bar? It will thrive in that location like 18th & Vine does. Enjoy bankruptcy if you decide to do it.
ReplyDeleteLower violent crime than Midtown? That's what you're hanging your hat on? How many murders around Budd Park alone? How many gangs are running around there? At least ten? And don't forget the wonderful Muslims that are migrating there as well. Oh, that Price Chopper is a peach to shop at too.
ReplyDeleteWhat does John Rizzo say about all this?
ReplyDelete5:23; that's your perception vs. actual statistics. Most violent crime here is drug related or domestic abuse. Very few muggings or car jackings compared to Midtown.
ReplyDeleteWestport is notorious for innocent people getting killed; especially around 39th & Broadway. Chubby's, Gusto, Walgreen's.
Restoring Thacher is integral to changing people's misperceptions about Northeast, and aside from $ needed to safely secure Thacher and historic tax credits, there should be relatively no public $ required to make the property both useful for the neighborhood and profitable for the developer.
oh stick to being a housewife ya freaking crackpot.
ReplyDeleteElbryon to restore something it had have been there in the first place. The reason property crimes might be higher in midtown, is because people have property there.
ReplyDeleteTo restore something how about getting rid of the hooker on the stroll and people killing each other, oh wait a crap infested building will do that.
How much $ is elBryan going to contribute? Broke as bitch wants to spend other peoples money..put money where you mouth is dreamer
ReplyDeleteTime is $, and Thacher was built with public money.
ReplyDeleteWe're not asking to spend anyone else's money... we're advocates for protecting an historic structure; essentially we're selling an antique to an investor with the potential to yield a profit and create economic development in Northeast.
You guys are seriously hilarious.
Let's have them taking the wrecking ball to the biggest eyesore in the city, the old school at 20th & West Pennway. Oh, I forgot that is westside and they don't get city services. You can bet that mess would not be tolerated in Brookside.
ReplyDeleteNo one can build a structure like Thatcher with the structural integrity of the craftsmen of days past. This building deserves to be preserved and repurposed; tearing it down is not the right option.
ReplyDeleteWhat a load of horse shit. I am currently working in one of these historical hell holes. Take a picture and go to work in photoshop.
ReplyDeleteNothing about these buildings is easy or cheap to fix or everybody would be lining up.
I am guessing Tonys mom lives in NE area and he lives in her basement. He deletes anyone who mentions all the obstructionist in the the NE area. That or he is ElBryans bitch
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